Update 2: Conservatives on Verge of Majority
Thursday September 11th 2008, 12:23 pm
Filed under: - 2008 Canada Election,Canadian Politics

Update: 3:20pm PT. Includes Sep 10 Ekos and Sep 10 Nanos.

According to the latest DemocraticSPACE projections, the Conservatives are on the verge of a majority government (which requires 155 seats). Current projections put the Conservatives at 146 seats on 37.7% support, the Liberals at 92 seats on 26.9% support, the NDP at 30 seats on 17.5% support, the Bloc at 38 seats on 8.6% support (32.5% in Québec), and the Greens with no seats and 8.3% support. These projections are based on regional polling data for all major Canadian pollsters between 2 Sep and 10 Sep. Regional breakdowns are below.

Last Updated: 11 Sept
CURRENT PROJECTION
CONSERVATIVE LIBERAL NDP BLOC GREEN OTHERS
37.7% 26.9% 17.5% 8.6% 8.3% 1.0%
146 92 30 38 0 2

Ontario
The Conservatives are currently projecting at 52 seats on 39.6% support, the Liberals 42 seats on 33.9%, the NDP 12 seats on 16.6% and the Greens no seats on 9.0%.

Québec
The Bloc Québécois is currently projecting at 38 seats on 32.5% support, the Conservatives at 17 seats on 27.2% support, the Liberals 18 seats on 20.1%, the NDP 1 seat on 13.1%, and the Greens no seats on 6.2%.

British Columbia
The Conservatives are currently projecting at 21 seats on 37.5% support, the NDP 9 seats on 27.0%, the Liberals 6 seats on 22.3% and the Greens no seats on 11.9%.

Alberta
The Conservatives are currently projected to win all 28 seats on 62.9% support, the Liberals at 17.2%, and the NDP at 9.9% and Greens at 8.5%.

Prairies
The Conservatives are currently projected to win 20 seats on 43.5% support, the NDP 4 seats on 28.1%, the Liberals 4 seats on 20.5% and the Greens no seats on 6.2%.

Atlantic Canada
The Liberals are currently projected to win 20 seats on 38.0% support, the Conservatives 8 seats on 31.4%, the NDP 3 seats on 24.0% and the Greens no seats on 6.0%.


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Greg the number for the liberals is a bit to low….using the nanos at 32% and decima at 28% – the two most recent ones would give the liberals 30% (averaging the two)…thus would imply a few more seats to the liberals….

Comment/commentaire by Francesco 09.11.08 @ 12:32 pm

Check his date data Francesco. Nanos’s poll today isn’t included in his projections

Comment/commentaire by Scott Tribe 09.11.08 @ 12:44 pm

Greg, in previous elections you provided a riding by riding breakdown. Will you be doing that this time? I am very interested in your predictions for some key battlegrounds and my home riding.

Comment/commentaire by Andrew 09.11.08 @ 12:47 pm

Also, I am interested in who the two independents predicted to win are.

Comment/commentaire by Andrew 09.11.08 @ 12:48 pm

Statistically speaking, what is the threshold for the Greens to get a seat? Assuming that it would be in B.C., what regional breakdown would be required? I see that AngusReid has them at 12% in the province. Also, what would be the seat most likely to go Green?

Comment/commentaire by dunkgreen 09.11.08 @ 1:57 pm

Something doesn’t add up.
The NDP have: 11 (ON) + 1 (QC) + 8 (BC) + 4 (Pra) + 4 (Atl) = 28.
The Liberals have: 43(ON) + 18 (QC) + 5 (BC) + 4 (Pra) + 18 (Atl) = 88.

I’m guessing the territories is 2 Liberals and 1 NDP, so that leaves 1 mystery NDP somewhere.

BC, Quebec, and Atlantic Canada are all short 1 MP right now. Arthur in Quebec and Casey in NS, I’m guessing. That leaves a missing NDP in BC. So, that should be 9 NDP MPs in BC.

Comment/commentaire by Chris 09.11.08 @ 2:11 pm

Andrew – yes, stay tuned for the new site to launch on Sept 14.

Comment/commentaire by democraticspace 09.11.08 @ 2:45 pm

Chris – yes, 2 for Libs in the North, 1 for NDP. Yes, 9 for the NDP in BC. Yes, Arthur and Casey are currently projecting as independents.

Comment/commentaire by democraticspace 09.11.08 @ 2:47 pm

dunkgreen — whether the Greens win a seat or not really depends on what happens in a couple key races; it’s not that dependent on the overall regional vote level. Best bets seems to be in Vancouver Centre and Central Nova.

Comment/commentaire by democraticspace 09.11.08 @ 2:48 pm

Every time I read numbers like this, I want to scream, I mean our outdated voting system is a national disgrace. Compare numbers:

NDP @ 17.5% gets 8 fewer seats than the Bloc @ 8.6%
Greens get *no* seats while the Bloc gets *38*, yet they are in a dead heat for popular vote!

Makes me want to pull my hair out. We need to highlight these disparacies when publishing stats on seats, until we can’t take it any more.

Comment/commentaire by Gerry Kirk 09.11.08 @ 6:40 pm

Id love to see a Tory majority.

I dont think the Greens will win any seats.

Comment/commentaire by Paul B 09.11.08 @ 7:31 pm

Gerry, the problem is that all the proposals to fix our voting system do something Canadians do not want – create more minority governments. I’ve been pushing for years for a Japanese style parallel system that Canadians can accept, but many keep pushing for a New Zealand style MMP system that Canadians have already rejected again and again at the ballot box.

Comment/commentaire by Nick J Boragina 09.12.08 @ 4:56 am

Hey Greg, I understand that you include the riding of André Arthur (Portneuf-Jacques-Cartier) into the number of seats you give to the PC in Quebec?

Comment/commentaire by David 09.12.08 @ 8:33 am

David – yes André Arthur is the independent seat in Québec.

Comment/commentaire by democraticspace 09.12.08 @ 9:48 am

Nick, I’m not clear that many are pushing for a New Zealand-style MMP system – that indeed was the proposal in Ontario, but I’ve never run across anyone suggesting that a single national list is appropriate for the Commons – the German and Japanese systems which have regional PR blocks seems much more appropriate, and is something that (I think) Greg proposed for Ontario as well a while back.

Comment/commentaire by Josh 09.12.08 @ 11:06 am

Greg,

I’m curious to know what everyone thinks of Preferential voting . I think it’s a brilliant system and would definitely lead to better, more accurate representation within the house of commons.

It wouldn’t be possible for right-wing Canadians (1 third of the country) to vote in a gov’t for the 2 thirds of the country that vote left-of-centre.

SUPPORT PREFERENTIAL VOTING! (wiki it to learn more)

Comment/commentaire by unstuck 09.12.08 @ 9:51 pm

Let’s hope for a Tory majority or else we will likely be back at the polls again in less than 2 years.

Comment/commentaire by JNG 09.13.08 @ 6:12 am

I would do anything — ANYTHING — to get Canada switched over to a preferential ballot.

Comment/commentaire by Christopher Murrie 09.14.08 @ 12:46 pm

I’ve been pushing for years for a Japanese style parallel system

Multi-member constituencies have been a disaster for Japan. As a candidate you end up competing against not just members of other parties, but members of your own party. The result is money politics on a scale that makes US elections look miserly in comparison, with vote buying and breathtaking levels of pork barrelling commonplace. The Japanese themselves are looking for a way out of it, but have so far failed to dislodge vested interests.

I’d like to try a PR or mixed PR/FPP system using national lists, but I definitely do not want multi-member constituencies.

Comment/commentaire by deane 09.14.08 @ 10:55 pm



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