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Friday Morning Round-Up

10:05am
Not much going on here this morning. There are speeches for the executive positions for the Liberal Party. Mostly boring stuff. Actually, most of the early events until mid-afternoon aren’t very exciting. The excitement starts at 3pm, when the first round voting starts — there should really be no surprises here, unless one camp has seen a disproportionate number of no-shows. I am hearing that as of yesterday, there were a lot of Kennedy no-shows. So that could allow Dion to by-pass Kennedy.

Since there is a lull here, let’s do a round-up of what we know:
1. Brison held a party last night where candidates were invited to talk to Brison delegates. Ignatieff and Rae attended. Kennedy and Dion did not, although Kennedy sent Justin Trudeau, who might bring some of Brison’s youth candidates to Kennedy. Not really a surprise — Brison is most aligned with Ignatieff, and I would be shocked if Brison didn’t back him. I think most of Brison’s delegates will go to Ignatieff even if Brison backs someone else. But since Brison underperformed in the delegate selections, Ignatieff isn’t getting as big a boost as he would like.

2. The Dion-Kennedy pact is set to go into effect after the second ballot — that is, after Martha Hall Findlay is knocked off the ballot (but with Volpe, Dryden and Brison still in play, unless they drop out earlier). Word is that Dryden will stick around through the second ballot, presumably to maximize his influence (and who said that Dryden did know how to play the politics game?). I would be surprised in Brison didn’t go to Ignatieff early and Volpe to Rae early. It is rumored that Dryden will go to Dion or Rae, not Kennedy, even though I know that the husband of one of Kennedy’s organizers is a senior Dryden organizer.

3. Dartmouth-Cole Harbour MP Mike Savage appears poised to go to Rae (courtesy Maxwell’s House).

4. Kennedy had a big breakfast rally this morning — huge crowd, especially for a 7:30am event (too early for me)! He talked about engaging with Canadians everyday, not only at election time (courtesey Politics, as Chiefly Seen from Toronto)

5. Some questions about Rae’s signs — are they orange or red? Frankly, I didn’t notice. They didn’t seem orange to me, but maybe not a vigrant Liberal red. Yeah, I think that’s going to do Rae in, for sure! (ah, no…)

6. Some reaction to rejecting one member-one vote. I agree with Red Tory on this one. It’s hard to saw you are for renewal when you defend a system that prevents all members from ranking their choices. The argument for rejecting one member-one vote stems from the misrepresentation that one member-one vote means the end of conventions, which is patently untrue. Another argument? It’s entertaining and exciting. Now there’s a good reason to deny 98% of members the chance to make their voices fully heard! Pathetic… let’s be honest. The delegates at the convention have power. Why would they vote to give everyone that power? It’s self interest, mixed with a misrepresented arguments and clinging to tradition that rejected one member-one vote. And it sends Canadians a clear signal that the Liberal party is not ready for the kind of openness that is necessary going forward.


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The Kennedy/Dion KD pact seems key to determining who is on the final ballo with KD (Ken Dryden) the key to the success of the pact. As I read you Greg, Kennedy was higher in delegate selection but lower on delegate turnout to Dion-so close to a tie first ballot. Then Justin Trudeau may get some Brison youth forKennedy as Brison, 7th on the first ballot drops, but still very close.

It would seem the leftovers from Volpe after he goes to Rae? will make very little differemce in the KD race and neither will the MHF vote,bolsteered by female ex offico as it may be. The big factor seems to be Ken Dryden, 6th on the first ballot.
If Ken Dryden, or a good chunk of his supporters, goes to Dion, thsi should put Dion ahead of Kennedy. If Drdyen goes to Kennedy, Kennedy ahead. The pact kicks in and Kennedy or Dion third on this ballot now looks to move ahead of second place Rae and then caputre the Anybody but Iggy vote of the rae supporters to win.

But a final kicker if Dryden goes to Rae that may give Bob enough votes that the KD combined forces are still third. Then the split of the KD forces decides whether its anybdoy but Iggy or anybody but Rae.
Sound about right?

Comment/commentaire by peterjcassidy 12.01.06 @ 9:44 am

Greg:
My partner (who is ex-officio) and I were unable to attend the convention. I would have been an observer and help the Dion Campaign. Dion is the candidate we both want to win. However, we are unable to attend for a variety of work, time and money issues.

That being said, I am not against a delegated convention and believe that the convention can take place without sending a real or perceived signal that it stacks the deck in favour of elites. There are important changes that are required, certainly in BC and I will be fighting for them. The biggest issue for me and others is that out-of-riding delegates can be placed on the ballots in multiple ridings. This is particularly offensive in remote large ridings like my own where people may not know each other at all and have no idea who the people on the ballot are and where they come from. This system in BC has allowed leadership candidates, including Kennedy, to recruit from the urban areas, ignore long time members in favour of instant Liberals and don’t even bother showing up to demonstrate interest the rural areas that they are all paying lip service to. As far as I can see, your man Kennedy is one of the biggest offenders in this category. His organizers in BC not only did not come here but did not respond to repeat invitations. Believe me, Kennedy and his people have mastered the art of manipulating the current system of voting and delegate stacking!

Is it an accident, that my number one choice is Dion, followed by Rae? They both showed respect for the largest riding in BC by coming here and making themselves available for people to meet and talk to. For me, this is huge.

A system, that either disallowed out of riding delegates except as substitutes is my preferred option or at the very least the home riding of proposed delegates is identified. Secondly, a preferential ballot can also easily be done.

And finally, I am very pleased that I can follow all the proceedings of the convention from the comfort of my living room - probably in some respects with a better sense of what’s going on than if I was crammed into the hall. We will be having a party here tomorrow to follow all the results as they happen and that is exciting. No convention? How boring. Just change the system to give everyone a meaningful vote.

Hope you’re all having a great time. Wish I was there!

Regards, Maatje

Comment/commentaire by Maatje Piket 12.01.06 @ 10:57 am

N’importe que mais pas Dion. C’est la perte du parti LibĂ©ral

Comment/commentaire by Romeo 08.09.07 @ 4:22 pm



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